 Hello, good morning, mister. Wins. Hello, good morning. I'm Shi Qing. And 2 weeks ago, we did a reusable packaging research together in the two dot. Yeah. So yesterday it follow up interview and I will have several simple questions about how you use the cup at home. Okay. So generally how do you feel about using the cup in your home? Actually I use it for the Lego bricks. There so therefore storage stories for the kids. Okay, yeah. Uh they didn't use it for any food or something I did like the coffee beans in it. Yeah, I remember that you bring a brought back the coffee beans rather than the cookies. Yeah, may I ask where did you store the cop with the coffee beans on my kitchen sink? 
All right. I recall it on the next to the coffee machine, so it's on the table it's, not in the cardboard or the drawer or somewhere. 
No. Okay, then how do you evaluate the cup in comparison to your other food containers at home? That I didn't actually use it as a food container, because I think the plastic make it makes it less useful. Yeah, so I'm not really sure what's the specific use for this. 
Yeah, you know what I mean yeah, so you use it more for the like storage the coffee beans but not use it as yeah. Yeah, and after I finished my coffee beets, I use it as stories for Lego bricks Lego or is it? Yeah, the kids story. Okay, yes. No, I get it. Yeah. And after you finish the or coffee beans, did you clean the cup? No, just use it. Because maybe there are nothing left in the container. No, it was quite clean. No, so not nothing to see. No, yeah. And then, if it is possible in our uh, real life, would you like to shop again using the system? No. No, i've been thinking about it. I'm thinking about it, and I'm not quite sure. What's the value of the smart chip in the complaint? 
Yeah, i've been to enter over to the shop of my friends, which has the something similar at the moment with big storage box where you can tap all kinds of stuff. And they use the type of pot like people pass pass you know. 
Yeah, so I I was at store and I was thinking, would the meal system be create more value over here? And I'm not sure why. Yeah, you mean that you are confused about the value of the smart, right? It's not, right. Why should I use the smart sanctions? The only thing is smart, so it the system knows which kind of couple I'm using. Yeah. And also, it's not like if there's one push of the bottom, the cup feels to the end, you still have to push it by yourself, just like the not so smart system at the store at the moment yeah so. I was thinking I why should I use this plastic cup a with a take on yeah um? I don't know why. Yes. 
Now you already try it in the TILDE of laboratory. It's just to help you unlock the dispenser and know which copy you used. Yeah, but I think you're right. I also have this kind of feelings. Should it necessary to be smart? Always just normal containers can also do the same things? Yeah, but now because they also have an application which we didn't use it in our research, the cheapest also help you to connect the cop with application. So you can check what kind of product you bought with this cup. And how many plastic waste you prevention by using this crop. Yeah, but still plastic. Yeah, what I mean, yeah, so you will feel the plastic. It's a a limitation or. No, I I was just curious. I was shopping and over a Saturday and I was continuously thinking what's the extra value of at the story and go the big food containers? 
But they also had AA system where you can re fill your clean bottles like it's called CHiME or something. 
Ii did make some pictures of it. So if you'd like to see it, I can send you. But I was continuously thinking, what would the extra value if this was smart? Yeah. That's a good question. Also have this doubts about the smart issue? No. If we take out the smart part and what would be left? What kind of disadvantage you think bring by the smart? Why you think I don't think there are any different functions because you just won't use it. Yeah, for me to use it. It has to be an advantage. At home. I do have several smart things like the lighting at all. This is Phillips. So if I walk down the stairs, the lights will go on the stone and then at holiday, the lights will go on and off at specific time. 
So everybody thinks were still at home, give me value over normal life which you have to switch on and off by night bulb. But what if you use yourself container with the system? Do you think there? It will bring more value to you. It depends. If you look at the system in angle, it's actually quite similar the meal system. And you can use your own container or you can use the stuff like the people uh. They offer for articles in, the first small fee. You can get back if you bring the cup back, or they have a small paper bags, you can feel all these options, yeah, all are already there and II am using it. 
As I understood, you will use this kind of a new shopping mode. But you are critical on the technology things because you think it's not necessary. 
Okay? Yeah, when you use this kind of system, rather the meanwhile of the one in the Edinburgh, do you feel you are contributing to the environment by use it? Yeah, but that's not the main reason for using. The main reason is I like this stuff. What's it? So it still depends on the product they provide. Okay. Yeah, now you also tried the ones, the real ones in the Edinburgh and do you in my do you think this will become uh our main shopping approach in the future to reuse and refuse the product? Could be, but it could also be AA AA niche market. Yeah, a very small market. Everybody uses it. Okay, yeah. 
Now why you think it's would be the niche market rather than the big supermarket? Because I think most of the people just want something to just grab it and take home. And this needs to uh, open a cup, feel it, put it on a scale for weight and all steps which takes time. So you have to make sure you have all the time you need to feel it and and and use it. It's kind of just taking a back which is already been prevailed. Yes. Okay, then that's all my questions. For a follow up interview. And thanks a lot. Thank you. A lot for sharing your opinion with me. Again, thank you. Then have a nice day. Thank you, bye bye. Bye, bye. 